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Mongo

Does any enterprise really care about micro billing? What application in App Exchange is designed for 30 minutes of one time use? Not really sure why that is an issue or where the demand for micro billing is coming from.

Also, why is the cost so much of an issue? This is capitalism, isn't it? Salesforce is trying to drive revenue for their shareholders. Also, they are providing a prebuilt and growing channel for small ISVs to sell too. Fortune 500 customers they would have had to spend endless dollars selling to otherwise. AND Salesforce has automated the billing and collections process! Those two line items are a huge deal for small companies. That being said, is 45% the right number? Time will tell.

But yes, this is the leverage they will need to fullfill their ambitions and enable Benioff to buy the rest of Hawaii.....

tjrsfca

Hey Mongo,

Good points from a more near-term view. I perhaps get my head in the clouds when envisioning the opportunity before SFDC. Perhaps not - I would agree that the channel they are developing is highly attractive to ISV's, but I want them to take it further by going completely vertical with ISV adoption. There is no competition right now, and here is their chance to dominate this field and win hands-down. It isn't unlike the desktop opportunity Microsoft capitalized on 20 years ago. SFDC has a chance to be the de facto On Demand platform but they need a game-ending number of applications in the Exchange. If there were, say, 10,000 applications in the exchange all written to the same SFDC data model, UI, etc... There would be a powerful virtuous cycle attracting customers and ISV's to such a degree that competing On Demand platforms would be suffocated. Today, SFDC has 400+ apps. They need more and fast to be the $10B company they could be. By priming the pump today, they can take a small cut down the road of an exponentially larger pie.

re: Micro-billing. That's just another facilitator to the massive On Demand pollyanna I envision.

dr

VMware beat Salesforce to the 'itunes of packaged applications', with the launch of the launch of its Virtual Machine Marketplace at VMworld last month, e.g. http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/eweek_labs/archive/2006/11/08/MorningCoffee20061108.aspx

Does anyone worry that Salesforce may drop the ball on keeping its main CRM application competitive if they spend all their time & effort building a broader application hosting platform (and the resultant support burden). Should they spin off the CRM component so they can keep focus?

tjrsfca

DR-

It's certainly a challenge and part of the tightrope Mr. Benioff needs to walk. Over- or under-investing in either business can be the difference between the $10B or $1B company.

But spinning out the CRM piece might not be necessary right now. Part of the charm of the industry at the moment is that "good enough" features addresses 80% of the market.

The other point I've heard Marc make is that the CRM application is not the "secret sauce" of the company. As I've posted elsewhere, the secret to SFDC is the dynamic between the database, application, and tools. In this light, the CRM application is just one of many web-native applications SFDC will enable.

At the last analyst day, Marc underscored this point by saying he could just as easily named the company Database.com and had a stock ticker of "SQL."

dr

I bet that would really annoy Mr Ellison :-)

Mongo

Despite its name, Salesforce is not about CRM. It's about a new way to build, deliver and consume software. If Software.com wasn't used by a telco software company during the bubble, I'm sure Benioff would have changed the name of the company already. CRM functionality was just the hook to get their foot in the door. The grand plan has ALWAYS been the platform play. They never have been nor ever will be leading edge in CRM functionality. So keeping the CRM piece "competitive" as you say is relatively simple if you agree with me on their true path.

Btw, Database.com isn't bad, but not sexy enough and too limiting in its scope. Although you are technically correct about the core of the system.

dennis

hmmm... SFDC becoming the next $10B company by becoming this hybrid B&N / software spectrum of an enterprise salesforce by leveraging their on-demand platform... interesting but I think their focus needs to remain on delivering value to their customers.

Right now, their model T approach of offering CRM, as long as it's only delivered online, seems to limit the options of strong inhouse IT departments in the enterprise.

goog or yhoo acquiring crm seem more plausible to me around the future of SFDC as these these kids find ways to leverage their data centers / economies of scale. Google is going to need to diversify their portfolio and i think with the monopoly money (goog stock) they have now, CRM seems like a reasonable target to diversify their consumer-based revenues.

my $.02...

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